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Tier 3 Regulations

Canada Free Press -- EPA intends to tighten the screws, in the midst of a severe recession with high gasoline prices is particularly reckless

Although the general public hasn’t heard much about it, the EPA is preparing to issue so-called “Tier 3” regulations on automakers and refiners, which are even more stringent than the “Tier 2” standards announced in 1999 and fully implemented in 2006. As usual, EPA hasn’t given a satisfactory justification for the tightening of the standards. One study conservatively estimates Tier 3 would impose an upfront compliance cost on refiners of almost $10 billion, and would permanently raise refinery costs 6 to 9 cents per gallon.

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Submitted Jun 16, 2012 By: wendy1john32

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stephen2155 Champion Author North Carolina Posts:3,150 Points:684,305 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 9:56:42 PM Ignore stephen2155 Report Abuse Of course
Tracer2008 All-Star Author Alberta Posts:540 Points:320,820 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 9:45:50 PM Ignore Tracer2008 Report Abuse On the road to over regulation... Why not keep the current regulations at going standards for the next 20 years? People need a breather, especially the auto makers and the refineries
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CapNC Veteran Author North Carolina Posts:398 Points:377,980 Joined:Jul 2011	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 9:27:56 PM Ignore CapNC Report Abuse maybe one day some of these government departments can be shut down and save tax dollars
EMoe57 Champion Author Jacksonville Posts:4,748 Points:1,042,540 Joined:Apr 2009	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 9:24:14 PM Ignore EMoe57 Report Abuse There is a haze over the city still. Until that goes away, we haven't done enough.
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Cheney Champion Author Toronto Posts:2,037 Points:2,556,635 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 9:18:07 PM Ignore Cheney Report Abuse It's ridiculous putting posts up here from right-wing religious groups, such as publish 'Canada Free Press', a right-wing propaganda sheet.
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NHLiveFree Champion Author New Hampshire Posts:11,289 Points:1,649,075 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 9:16:10 PM Ignore NHLiveFree Report Abuse The EPA is safeguarding our health and preventing more cases of lung cancer and asthma as well as preventing the contamination of our land and water. The Canadian Free Press is a blog website that expouses opinions with an ultra conservative bent. The opinion article was generated as a Press Release by the IER, the Institute for Energy Research. It is a Big Oil lackey like the API and is funded by the oil and coal industries. The article is just more industry/special interests spin and misinformation.
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cisson All-Star Author Kentucky Posts:516 Points:394,635 Joined:Jul 2010	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 9:00:41 PM Ignore cisson Report Abuse EPA sucks
johnnyg1200 Champion Author St. Louis Posts:4,426 Points:671,770 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 8:57:06 PM Ignore johnnyg1200 Report Abuse Obama with the help of the EPA and Chu want gas prices like they have in Europe. This is part of the plan. Those of you that say Obama can’t do anything about gas prices are wrong. His policies can push ten up but he can’t bring them down.
Tucker1961 Champion Author Seattle Posts:2,157 Points:363,170 Joined:Jun 2009	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 8:56:29 PM Ignore Tucker1961 Report Abuse I use the least amount of gas I can
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carman11 Champion Author North Carolina Posts:3,474 Points:718,450 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 8:55:01 PM Ignore carman11 Report Abuse WITH ALREADY HIGHER GAS TAX AND WE BLAME THE OIL COMPANIES FOR THE HIGH GAS PRICES. LOOK TO WASHINGTON. THEY ARE THE GREEDY ONES THAT DON'T CARE ABOUT US NOT THE OIL COMPANIES.
dky63 Veteran Author Illinois Posts:417 Points:166,965 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 8:53:57 PM Ignore dky63 Report Abuse government is not in touch with the citizens anymore, vote em all out!
monieet All-Star Author California Posts:978 Points:551,085 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 8:51:21 PM Ignore monieet Report Abuse OK
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js0743 All-Star Author Georgia Posts:981 Points:476,330 Joined:Nov 2011	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 8:48:08 PM Ignore js0743 Report Abuse Bunch of crap
BeanoLI All-Star Author Long Island Posts:558 Points:746,850 Joined:Sep 2010	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 8:46:43 PM Ignore BeanoLI Report Abuse Disband the EPA. Don't believe them anyway.
SpruceGuse2 Champion Author Michigan Posts:9,864 Points:2,480,435 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 8:42:43 PM Ignore SpruceGuse2 Report Abuse What ever.......................
ItisAJeepThing Champion Author Tucson Posts:20,022 Points:2,178,305 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 8:40:42 PM Ignore ItisAJeepThing Report Abuse I looked it up, and here's what the EPA study actually said: (And please note that it says 'one cent per gallon.') "Based upon a new study conducted by MathPro – an expert refinery consulting firm – the price of reducing the average gasoline sulfur content to 10-ppm would be modest, likely less than one cent per gallon. Further, lowering sulfur in gasoline is a very cost-effective means by which to achieve substantial emissions reductions." "The emissions reductions from Tier 3 vehicles and gasoline will be accompanied by substantial health and welfare benefits. For example, the NOx reductions will lead to reduced levels of ambient particulate matter (PM) that, in turn, will translate into more than 400 avoided premature deaths and 52,000 avoided lost workdays each year." Why does the energy industry continue to misrepresent the work of the EPA? ...
DarthDadJr Champion Author Virginia Posts:7,427 Points:1,545,670 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 8:39:03 PM Ignore DarthDadJr Report Abuse The key is the trade off...how much cleaner is the air for the added cost...
julius1st4 Champion Author Ontario Posts:4,277 Points:1,199,830 Joined:Jul 2003	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 8:35:48 PM Ignore julius1st4 Report Abuse Not too much sense to this article!!
jalan25 Champion Author Indianapolis Posts:2,445 Points:596,320 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 8:34:40 PM Ignore jalan25 Report Abuse And from what I read in another article "would add little if any benefit to the environment."
FreeeBee Veteran Author Atlanta Posts:343 Points:227,995 Joined:Jan 2007	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 8:25:43 PM Ignore FreeeBee Report Abuse every time i click on this web site.. my heart skips few beats in anticipation of gas prices are going high again.. so it is a matter of few days.. for any lame excuse prices will go high again.. this is another one of them...
DTrainCanada Champion Author Saskatoon Posts:1,848 Points:1,444,725 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 8:23:47 PM Ignore DTrainCanada Report Abuse No tears for your tiers ...
MrCads Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:1,978 Points:699,875 Joined:May 2010	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 8:23:46 PM Ignore MrCads Report Abuse Don't count on this unelected, unaccountable agency of the U.S. federal government to ever give a satisfactory justification for any of their rulings. They like to stir up trouble where there is none -- and in so doing, hamper the free market. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm sure glad they are not elected. Elections only get you the best people money can buy.
MRHONEST Champion Author Illinois Posts:2,217 Points:1,695,830 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 8:23:28 PM Ignore MRHONEST Report Abuse OH NO
Dsin44 Champion Author Abbotsford Posts:1,275 Points:276,195 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 8:22:28 PM Ignore Dsin44 Report Abuse get rid of everybody that is involved in this rip off... Impeach Obama and for that matter Harper too..
MrCads Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:1,978 Points:699,875 Joined:May 2010	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 8:22:11 PM Ignore MrCads Report Abuse How in the world did they not buy the EPA yet? They already have every damn politician in their pocket.
200porter Champion Author Toronto Posts:2,200 Points:568,860 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 8:21:53 PM Ignore 200porter Report Abuse Thanks EPA.
PissedCanuck Champion Author Toronto Posts:5,456 Points:1,510,170 Joined:Nov 2006	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 8:18:52 PM Ignore PissedCanuck Report Abuse Get rid of Nobama come November and also cast off the EPA.
hibsaw Champion Author Mississippi Posts:8,178 Points:1,708,690 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 8:14:44 PM Ignore hibsaw Report Abuse The EPA causes us much misery.
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inspiretl Veteran Author New Jersey Posts:417 Points:165,480 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 8:09:24 PM Ignore inspiretl Report Abuse Regulations at its best
TelsaOR Champion Author Oregon Posts:3,596 Points:740,215 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 8:07:48 PM Ignore TelsaOR Report Abuse Too much government.