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85-Octane Gas Sold In SD

KDLT News -- 85-octane gas can be distributed to gas stations in South Dakota starting Monday.

Gov. Dennis Daugaard instructed the state Department of Public Safety to implement emergency rules governing the sale of the lower grade gasoline. Oil companies and distributors say there could be possible fuel shortages if they are not allowed to sell 85-octane gasoline in South Dakota.

It has been sold in the Black Hills for many years; because lower octane gas won’t pre-detonate as easily at higher elevations.

The octane rating tells us how high the ignition point of gasoline is. You might look at it this way--the higher the number, the more stable the ignition. Lower octane gas ignites easier, which means it can cause early misfires in your car engine. If there are enough of these mistimed explosions,

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Submitted Jul 11, 2012 By: angel4me

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honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,828 Points:1,637,220 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Jul 15, 2012 8:14:03 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse Another way to make more money with less effort.
Gmsclecarparts All-Star Author Oklahoma City Posts:707 Points:123,195 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Jul 12, 2012 4:52:54 PM Ignore Gmsclecarparts Report Abuse 85 octane pure gasoline is absolute garbage. One can bet the push for ultrea low octane fuel is tied directly to SD ethanol plants & corn producers. By making pure gasoline lower in octane, fuel suppliers will HAVE to blend corn based ethanol in the junk 85 octane gasoline just to get it up to 87 octane. This will in turn make consumers dependent on the ehanol laced mileage robbing E10 & one can bet soon to be forced on consumers... E15. With numerous ethanol plants having been closed in the last few weeks, all this directive will do position SD's pure gaoline at a point that ethanol has to be added to it, keeping the entire corrupt process going. SD's corn farmers & ethanol producers can continue rubbing their greedy palms. Heres some info straight from SD's agriculture website http://www.nasda.org/cms/7195/8617/8835.aspx "South Dakota’s main crops are corn, soybeans, wheat and hay. Roughly 40 percent of the corn produced in South Dakota goes towards ethanol production. There are 15 ethanol plants in the state, which produce almost 1 billion gallons per year, which is 10% of the nation’s ethanol supply. South Dakota has the nation’s highest number of farmer-owned plants and is fourth in total ethanol production." That's where the emergency is, not possible fuel shortages of decent octane pure gasoline, the gasoline refined & sold to South Dakota consumers could easily & should be 87 octane MINIMUM pure gasoline! [Edited by: Gmsclecarparts at 7/12/2012 4:55:45 PM EST]
HawaiianGuy Champion Author Idaho Posts:9,663 Points:3,105,800 Joined:May 2003	Message Posted: Jul 12, 2012 3:55:59 PM Ignore HawaiianGuy Report Abuse South Dakota has always had the higher elevations that call for 85 octane Regular. This should have been in place decades ago.
sparky808 Champion Author Honolulu Posts:3,139 Points:624,685 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Jul 12, 2012 1:17:08 PM Ignore sparky808 Report Abuse Thank you for posting.
gravityhurts Champion Author North Carolina Posts:4,234 Points:965,205 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Jul 12, 2012 8:55:52 AM Ignore gravityhurts Report Abuse Nope, I don't think so.
remay Champion Author Houston Posts:7,078 Points:2,143,665 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Jul 12, 2012 6:39:08 AM Ignore remay Report Abuse "Oil companies and distributors say there could be possible fuel shortages if they are not allowed to sell 85-octane gasoline in South Dakota" WHAT???
jrs4125 Champion Author Indiana Posts:2,898 Points:619,445 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Jul 12, 2012 6:32:06 AM Ignore jrs4125 Report Abuse Informative article.
justmedc Veteran Author Michigan Posts:382 Points:174,495 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Jul 12, 2012 1:33:29 AM Ignore justmedc Report Abuse ok
NorthglennBill Champion Author Denver Posts:7,557 Points:1,498,670 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Jul 12, 2012 12:06:32 AM Ignore NorthglennBill Report Abuse 85/86 octane has worked well in all the other states, it should work just fine in SD as well.
Buffalo Joe Champion Author Alberta Posts:8,729 Points:2,536,310 Joined:Feb 2003	Message Posted: Jul 12, 2012 12:03:23 AM Ignore Buffalo Joe Report Abuse Less octane = less MPG.
flyfast Champion Author Kansas City Posts:9,391 Points:1,853,695 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Jul 12, 2012 12:02:35 AM Ignore flyfast Report Abuse PAY MORE GET LESS
DesertRat2011 Champion Author Riverside Posts:3,761 Points:511,530 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Jul 12, 2012 12:00:40 AM Ignore DesertRat2011 Report Abuse Fuel mileage will go down
min_fuel Champion Author Philadelphia Posts:1,956 Points:725,545 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Jul 11, 2012 11:59:53 PM Ignore min_fuel Report Abuse I don't know.
MDTDriver Champion Author California Posts:9,848 Points:2,181,650 Joined:Jul 2006	Message Posted: Jul 11, 2012 11:57:26 PM Ignore MDTDriver Report Abuse It may work in high elevations but thats all.
BrucePen Champion Author Ontario Posts:6,732 Points:1,387,590 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Jul 11, 2012 11:56:33 PM Ignore BrucePen Report Abuse Big engines will run better.
mgune9 All-Star Author Dallas Posts:914 Points:200,395 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Jul 11, 2012 11:55:56 PM Ignore mgune9 Report Abuse would like to read me about this - what is misfire range increase from 87 to 85 octane level?
AnObserver Champion Author New Jersey Posts:8,494 Points:2,285,480 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Jul 11, 2012 11:54:17 PM Ignore AnObserver Report Abuse Several states permit 85 octane - a bit of a shocj=k for thus f us from 87 octane states - I didn't notice any appreciable difference other than the cost was the same as 87 octane in other states.
Jeff1944 Champion Author South Dakota Posts:4,342 Points:1,100,285 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Jul 11, 2012 11:53:06 PM Ignore Jeff1944 Report Abuse Cenex in Sturgis SD has been selling 85 octane for over 2 years!
Ayeghoti Champion Author Michigan Posts:2,530 Points:368,380 Joined:Aug 2007	Message Posted: Jul 11, 2012 11:52:41 PM Ignore Ayeghoti Report Abuse o
Tracer2008 All-Star Author Alberta Posts:540 Points:321,570 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Jul 11, 2012 11:42:12 PM Ignore Tracer2008 Report Abuse Theres your first warning folks "Possible fuel shortages could be possible" Prices will raise again...
john600 Rookie Author Minnesota Posts:20 Points:14,825 Joined:Oct 2011	Message Posted: Jul 11, 2012 11:42:11 PM Ignore john600 Report Abuse octane booster is a joke you'd need to carry 2 cases to make any real difference. 1 bottle will change the octane of 15 gals. of gas by .1 -.2 pts. of octane.
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eye-spy Champion Author Quebec Posts:4,723 Points:2,445,320 Joined:Feb 2005	Message Posted: Jul 11, 2012 11:38:59 PM Ignore eye-spy Report Abuse How I long for the days when there were only two choices of 100% Gasoline. Regular and Super. Also the price at the pump varied a few pennies, if ever, per GALLON. Oh Happy Days!!
Mowerman08 Champion Author Milwaukee Posts:4,883 Points:1,243,480 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Jul 11, 2012 11:36:13 PM Ignore Mowerman08 Report Abuse OK for the hills.
Barfood Champion Author St. Louis Posts:3,368 Points:1,036,675 Joined:Jun 2009	Message Posted: Jul 11, 2012 11:34:20 PM Ignore Barfood Report Abuse I didn't know that about mountain states.
Vette1967 Champion Author Albany Posts:6,107 Points:1,303,700 Joined:Jun 2009	Message Posted: Jul 11, 2012 11:33:24 PM Ignore Vette1967 Report Abuse What is the purpose?
john600 Rookie Author Minnesota Posts:20 Points:14,825 Joined:Oct 2011	Message Posted: Jul 11, 2012 11:29:26 PM Ignore john600 Report Abuse Mountain states have had 84 or 85 octane for years. Problem is when your traveling and have it in your tank and come down into the lower altitudes motor starts to ping especially if your working the motor hard. 85 octane is readily available on the wholesale market it's what they add 10% ethanaol to, to get 87 octane oxygenated. AS ethanol increases octane they add it to the 87 to get midgrade and so on... Newer cars require higher octane due to higher compression so 85 will not cut the mustard out on the plains so if you find yourself with an engine knock due to low octane gas you have to get premium gas ASAP or you could throw in a couple gallons of E-85 even if your car isn't flex fuel to cure the knock. I've done it, it works.
unicornIL Veteran Author Chicago Posts:451 Points:393,570 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Jul 11, 2012 11:27:47 PM Ignore unicornIL Report Abuse oil companies and distributors claiming shortages, hhmmmmmm imagine that, why didn't they process it for higher octane in the first place??
letmathe Champion Author Chicago Posts:14,443 Points:3,158,595 Joined:May 2001	Message Posted: Jul 11, 2012 11:24:17 PM Ignore letmathe Report Abuse Only thing sold in IL
pgriff1 Champion Author New Orleans Posts:4,365 Points:1,723,395 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Jul 11, 2012 11:24:16 PM Ignore pgriff1 Report Abuse buy octane booster before going to SD
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clermont40miles Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:10,754 Points:1,799,595 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Jul 11, 2012 11:21:43 PM Ignore clermont40miles Report Abuse Needs more octane. 87 is low enough! No thanks - I'll have none of that.
aggietim Champion Author Fort Worth Posts:1,831 Points:717,050 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Jul 11, 2012 11:17:29 PM Ignore aggietim Report Abuse bad idea
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my97jeep Sophomore Author Washington Posts:131 Points:33,650 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Jul 11, 2012 11:13:55 PM Ignore my97jeep Report Abuse Might be harmful to many engines. No way!
greentre All-Star Author Pensacola Posts:830 Points:290,460 Joined:Oct 2011	Message Posted: Jul 11, 2012 11:11:41 PM Ignore greentre Report Abuse Learned something new. Well at least corrected a misconception. i.e. lower octane = easier to ignite fuel; higher octane = harder to ignite fuel.
SalukiCO Sophomore Author Colorado Springs Posts:199 Points:243,295 Joined:Jun 2012	Message Posted: Jul 11, 2012 11:07:03 PM Ignore SalukiCO Report Abuse I run on 85 just fine, but I do live at altitude.
NemoIL Champion Author Illinois Posts:3,164 Points:1,340,880 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Jul 11, 2012 11:06:30 PM Ignore NemoIL Report Abuse Ehtanol is a bad overpriced fuel.
mecforyou Champion Author Iowa Posts:2,966 Points:1,275,735 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Jul 11, 2012 11:05:49 PM Ignore mecforyou Report Abuse the only thing I use is E85
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EmperorsFinest Champion Author Chicago Posts:1,564 Points:340,870 Joined:Jul 2011	Message Posted: Jul 11, 2012 11:03:21 PM Ignore EmperorsFinest Report Abuse This doesn't sound right...
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abcdMA Champion Author Worcester Posts:8,052 Points:1,600,730 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Jul 11, 2012 10:39:22 PM Ignore abcdMA Report Abuse will it spread or will consumers force a change?