honda0105

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Tallahassee
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Message Posted: Aug 10, 2012 6:34:20 AM
with all the near record profits that Pig Oil makes, one would think, there was money to upkeep these important pieces in the petroleum industry.
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jim3670

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Arkansas
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 2:50:00 PM
It's true no new refineries have been built. But existing ones have been expanded. There is more refining capacity in the United States right now than in any time in history. More new refineries will not improve supply or drop prices. It would just drive some of the older smaller refineries out of business.
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gazprize

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Toronto
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 2:19:36 PM
sad, but these are all tactics too
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LilRedWagonIN

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Indiana
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 2:08:26 PM
Now if a new competitive refinery was in full operation just down the road.... Oh, http://freedombytheway.com/2011/03/02/yippee-two-new-oil-refineries-in-development-first-in-us-in-35-years/ doesn't say they are just down the road in CA.
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hok

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Los Angeles
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 1:14:14 PM
√ I am going to gas up now!
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pilotmass

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Boston
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 11:18:12 AM
Watch California gas prices erupt 20 cents a gallon in next 24 hours....
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dabayer

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New Hampshire
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 11:17:39 AM
Interesting, big oil takes out another refinery.
Result? Gas prices automatically go UP, UP, UP! They make more money by doing less and avoiding costly repairs and maintenance.
Only in America!!!
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waynemustang

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Indiana
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 11:15:57 AM
Greedy Government needs to allow new refineries to be built.
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RBob

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Portland
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 11:14:03 AM
You know darn well if it was hurting the bottom line for the oil barons they would have an alternative plan in place since there is a fire at this refinery or others in that area several times a year.
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ZeroBoxes

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Mississippi
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 11:00:08 AM
Sad news hope no one was hurt or injured.
[Edited by: ZeroBoxes at 8/7/2012 11:00:51 AM EST]
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Catfish93001

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Ventura
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 10:52:37 AM
Glad I filled up yesterday.
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SycamoreISU

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Indiana
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 10:50:52 AM
Since no new refineries have been approved in decades, the existing refineries continue to age and deteriorate. As demand increases, the impact of one less refinery can and does affect gas prices due to less supply.
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us412

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Arkansas
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 10:49:42 AM
Scene: A cigarette butt flies out a car window and a refinery goes up in flames. Cut to text: Only you can prevent refinery fires, said in a deep baritone voice.
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bart_reed

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Los Angeles
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 10:32:47 AM
Swift increase is in process as we type.
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Bigtex09

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Dallas
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 10:29:15 AM
gas goes up!!
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malfrog1

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South Bend
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 10:27:57 AM
Another good excuse for large price increases.
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jl1rp

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New Hampshire
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 10:22:42 AM
not good for pricing
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us4usa

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Missouri
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 10:21:53 AM
Someone is going to pay for this fire, and it not the CEO or board members...
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JCI46009IN

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Indiana
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 10:21:11 AM
Up UP and away AGAIN!
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sdiddydaddy

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Grand Rapids
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 10:18:34 AM
Might as well stay inside for awhile. Gas will surely be jumping way up.
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buzzieNY

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Buffalo
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 10:14:17 AM
Just another excuse to raise pump prices.
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Hangnail309

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Manitoba
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 10:10:21 AM
Here we go, again ...
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trojanbuck

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Dayton
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 10:10:09 AM
The government created hell that is California is just a preview of what waits for the rest of us if we keep turning to the government for help. If California hadn't legislated themselves such a unique fuel environment with their dismal array of requirements, they wouldn't be in this situation.
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Rick01

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Utah
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 10:08:38 AM
I'm sure we'll feel it here in Utah like we have from the mid west crunch.
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DimitrisIL

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 10:07:27 AM
Sad. I hope all residents are good.
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jethro5000

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Kentucky
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 10:05:09 AM
not good at all...
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DougtheEconMan

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Akron
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 10:04:48 AM
Keep your tanks and gas cans full for the next 5 or 6 weeks. High prices and spot shortages are possible.
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LuthierKS

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Wichita
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 10:04:47 AM
This will certainly affect prices in the immediate area. The price affect may spread outward, depending on near-by capacity.
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Ticobird

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Huntsville
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 10:02:45 AM
This is not good. It will probably affect all US consumers of oil products and it will last a while. Oh well, scratch this year's vacation.
[Edited by: Ticobird at 8/7/2012 10:03:29 AM EST]
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checkitnow

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Atlanta
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 10:02:01 AM
refinery fires in cali and okla... we're already up since june... $4/gal incoming
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silverfoxv65

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 10:01:59 AM
Here we go again!
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Chinto12

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 10:01:55 AM
Here we go again.
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hibsaw

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Mississippi
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 10:01:53 AM
Ouch! That's not good.
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goodbuy

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 10:00:51 AM
I forsee $4.25 a gallon by tomorrow.
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garjul

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Flint
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 10:00:18 AM
Never any good news when it comes to gas prices.
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puinsai808

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Honolulu
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 9:59:20 AM
Not good for gas prices.
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bodu

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Vancouver
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 9:58:54 AM
I smell a rat. A price fixing rat with a lighter.
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techque

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St. Louis
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 9:58:50 AM
yet another excuse to jack pries back into the stratosphere and cause another great recession. petroterrorists seem by design or incompetence to want to destroy our economy.
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HA4CNN

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Toronto
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 9:58:46 AM
Hang on to your hat it is going to be a rough ride.
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sivart

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Arkansas
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 9:58:38 AM
Uh Oh!!!!!
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DougtheEconMan

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Akron
Posts:1,903 Points:268,690 Joined:Feb 2008
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 9:57:59 AM
Keep your tanks and gas cans full for the next 5 or 6 weeks. High prices and spot shortages are possible.
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bullseye100

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 9:57:20 AM
Californians need to sleep on their backs. Your butts are about to hurt!
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ggordo

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Long Island
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 9:56:25 AM
just another excuse to raise pump prices.
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SUPPER

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San Bernardino
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 9:56:18 AM
nobama
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craigrm

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Connecticut
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 9:56:13 AM
not good
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momof5MN

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 9:56:03 AM
Bad news. The whole country's prices will go up whether we use that refinery or not. Gotta be "fair."
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putz247

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 9:55:04 AM
ouch
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357revo

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Pittsburgh
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 9:52:38 AM
West Coast gasoline market is "isolated from other markets" because they chose to specify boutique blends for their fuel, which is not made expect specifically to sell there. This also goes to explain some of the extra cost of fuel in their little piece of the world... along with the extra taxes slapped on that fuel by their government rulers.
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CptnCanada

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Saskatoon
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 9:52:33 AM
Tomorrows new article .." California fuel prices rise by 20%"
[Edited by: CptnCanada at 8/7/2012 9:52:55 AM EST]
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Elaine4411

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Pennsylvania
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 9:51:57 AM
Just one more reason for gas prices to continue to keep rising!
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