honda0105

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Message Posted: Feb 16, 2013 5:41:44 AM
lots of foreign ships are poorly maintained. No surprise here.
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honda0105

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Message Posted: Feb 15, 2013 5:57:17 AM
thanks for posting, T42!
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LetemEatCake

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Message Posted: Feb 14, 2013 12:01:34 AM
Excellent article T42...thanks for posting!
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remay

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Message Posted: Feb 13, 2013 8:38:14 AM
Hmmmm... a dirty little secret exposed?
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crep1291

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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 11:10:22 PM
"Mother Earth can take care of herself."
Correct. Unfortunately, one day she might just decide to take care of us.
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leemun

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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 10:00:40 PM
Oh, goody goody! Environazis have found another dangerous pollutant that nobody ever heard of before!
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PDQBlues

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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 5:51:32 PM
The shear number of cars certainly make more pollution then ships. But making ships less polluting will certainly help everyone (except those who like polluting to make a few bucks).
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tomok

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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 3:50:00 PM
NASA Satellite Spots Foul Pollution Trails Over Shipping Lanes? Ships can transport huge amounts of cargo using a reasonable amount of fuel, with the resulting stack pollution produced. Just like trains can transport cargo and containers using a smaller amount of fuel than trucks would use over the roads and highways of the US, each carrying the same amount of cargo. Maybe NASA Satellite can Spot the Foul Pollution Trails from the many different gases emitted by industrial and vehicle sources and the atmosphere content before industrialization and now. How has this pollution affected human life and the many different plants and other animal life on this planet since the start of industralization? Compare it to earth's natural gas releases from volcanos, marshes, bogs, deep organic deposits, oil and gas deposits, etc. or metor impacts from outside the earth. Crude oil, natural gas and fuel price related? Drive vehicles with high MPG, are very safe, reliable, have a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money. The price of fuel at the pump is too high!
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MadFueler

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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 1:32:31 PM
Whatever happened to the kite sails that ships were supposed to save fuel with?
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lgwhitlock

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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 11:03:32 AM
Considering most shipping takes place in international waters there it little the EPA can do except bring it to people's attention. However I suspect all the semi-trucks on the roads produce a lot of the stuff too...
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teenitup

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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 10:50:15 AM
Snooze.
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fuel2use

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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 9:54:03 AM
Technology marches on.
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merlinCO

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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 9:38:58 AM
Capture it and put it on corn so we can produce more ethanol.
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oas

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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 8:48:27 AM
Perhaps we should be focusing on these more than cars.
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RUNNINONEMPTYFL

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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 8:38:07 AM
Tree huggers!!!
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PTBpricer

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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 8:31:20 AM
Well said doeslayersr, well said.
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angel4me

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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 8:28:36 AM
they have known this long ago.......
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geezrtek

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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 8:26:11 AM
Scientific data being interpreted by an airhead journalist only interested in spewing alarmist BS.
The authors interchangeable use of "nitrogen" and "nitrogen dioxide", for example "The sickeningly dense clouds of nitrogen", is not just imprecise but for the person who does not realize that 79% of our atmosphere is composed of regular nitrogen (N2) is deceptive.
And ?"Foul Pollution"? as opposed to the regular pollution or the nice pollution that we all love.
Read the real article at http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=80375
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doeslayersr

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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 8:16:04 AM
Better suited for the climatebuddy site or forum.
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bar1035

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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 7:40:37 AM
Anybody here smoke?
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ejl2000

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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 7:34:18 AM
I blame Al Gore!
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FNB1967

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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 7:33:26 AM
Interesting
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WeasleyOC

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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 7:31:58 AM
If we clean them up, the costs will go up too.
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fatboy97

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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 7:29:33 AM
Too much to say about this... and I don't have the time.
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jjjleblanc

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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 7:28:21 AM
Can you even see China through the smog?
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maxcap59

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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 7:28:03 AM
That's it. Ban ALL boats and ships, period! Save the planet! I can already see Gore and his greenies going after this one. Idiots.
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CarefulDriver

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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 7:27:22 AM
Interesting.
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ttfn5tigger

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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 7:26:31 AM
instead of complaining about it, develop a cost-effective alternative to the present engines.
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isem

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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 7:25:11 AM
Move on...
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sawdust1825

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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 7:24:40 AM
Unrelated but interesting
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tdc007

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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 7:24:31 AM
Not surprised, but pollutants produced per ton of freight transported is probably the least for ships as compared to any other form of transport.
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4064BORI

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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 7:23:59 AM
That is for the other blog pollution at sea.
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calripken_8

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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 7:23:16 AM
Well then let's stop shipping anything, mmmmm-kay?
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Jamer

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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 7:22:13 AM
NOT a fuel price subject.
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marinedad1949

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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 7:22:09 AM
Mother Earth can take care of herself.
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PurduePete86

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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 7:22:01 AM
another downside of offshoring jobs
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MaxGasUp

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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 7:21:13 AM
OK.
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my2002m

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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 7:21:09 AM
When its done somewhere else not much you can do about it.
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RangerBob58

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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 7:21:07 AM
Buy American
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drakeman70

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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 7:20:16 AM
ok how do you fixit.
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rbutterw

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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 7:19:23 AM
Way to go - we are hurting the earth mother again
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biza4u

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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 7:19:09 AM
ok
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dave364

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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 7:19:04 AM
bs
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LocalSpyGuy

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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 7:18:51 AM
We're beginning to use alternative fuel for other transportation. Why not develop it for these large vessels?
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ponyNJ

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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 7:17:32 AM
I guess what we need are electric powered boats dragging giant floating solar panels. Never mind having to pay the crews overtime on cloudy days, we can always just print more money. But wait, if it is also a windless day we won't have power to run the presses.
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JCUBE

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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 7:17:24 AM
NOT gas price related...DUH!
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mustangdaver

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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 7:16:26 AM
ok
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Ltdc

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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 7:16:23 AM
Of course the question is what can you do about it?
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ExplodingGlass

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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 7:16:09 AM
prolly
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Edpap

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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 7:16:04 AM
I thought the atmosphere was already 70% nitrogen, so dense clouds appear to be natural. This article is a waste of time to even read.
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